Why modern feminism is illogical, unnecessary, and evil

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Why modern feminism is illogical, unnecessary, and evil

Postby Globe » Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:30 pm

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the ... y-and-evil

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Why modern feminism is illogical, unnecessary, and evil

Although it is not Susan Pinker’s intention in writing it, reading her excellent book The Sexual Paradox: Troubled Boys, Gifted Girls and the Real Difference Between the Sexes cannot help but further reinforce my view that modern feminism in the 21st century is simultaneously illogical, unnecessary, and evil.

First, modern feminism is illogical because, as Pinker points out, it is based on the vanilla assumption that, but for lifelong gender socialization and pernicious patriarchy, men and women are on the whole identical. An insurmountable body of evidence by now conclusively demonstrates that the vanilla assumption is false; men and women are inherently, fundamentally, and irreconcilably different. Any political movement based on such a spectacularly incorrect assumption about human nature – that men and women are and should be identical – is doomed to failure.


As far as I can see it, he starts off with the, rather correct, observation that there are differences between men and women, and then travels out a tangent at the speed of light, basically justifying that there shouldn't be equality and equal rights and opportunity.
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Re: Why modern feminism is illogical, unnecessary, and evil

Postby maiforpeace » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:05 pm

Globe wrote:http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/200908/why-modern-feminism-is-illogical-unnecessary-and-evil

I don't know what to say. :what:

Why modern feminism is illogical, unnecessary, and evil

Although it is not Susan Pinker’s intention in writing it, reading her excellent book The Sexual Paradox: Troubled Boys, Gifted Girls and the Real Difference Between the Sexes cannot help but further reinforce my view that modern feminism in the 21st century is simultaneously illogical, unnecessary, and evil.

First, modern feminism is illogical because, as Pinker points out, it is based on the vanilla assumption that, but for lifelong gender socialization and pernicious patriarchy, men and women are on the whole identical. An insurmountable body of evidence by now conclusively demonstrates that the vanilla assumption is false; men and women are inherently, fundamentally, and irreconcilably different. Any political movement based on such a spectacularly incorrect assumption about human nature – that men and women are and should be identical – is doomed to failure.


As far as I can see it, he starts off with the, rather correct, observation that there are differences between men and women, and then travels out a tangent at the speed of light, basically justifying that there shouldn't be equality and equal rights and opportunity.


He's a man. :dunno:
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Re: Why modern feminism is illogical, unnecessary, and evil

Postby Heiden » Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:29 am

maiforpeace wrote:
Globe wrote:http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/200908/why-modern-feminism-is-illogical-unnecessary-and-evil

I don't know what to say. :what:

Why modern feminism is illogical, unnecessary, and evil

Although it is not Susan Pinker’s intention in writing it, reading her excellent book The Sexual Paradox: Troubled Boys, Gifted Girls and the Real Difference Between the Sexes cannot help but further reinforce my view that modern feminism in the 21st century is simultaneously illogical, unnecessary, and evil.

First, modern feminism is illogical because, as Pinker points out, it is based on the vanilla assumption that, but for lifelong gender socialization and pernicious patriarchy, men and women are on the whole identical. An insurmountable body of evidence by now conclusively demonstrates that the vanilla assumption is false; men and women are inherently, fundamentally, and irreconcilably different. Any political movement based on such a spectacularly incorrect assumption about human nature – that men and women are and should be identical – is doomed to failure.


As far as I can see it, he starts off with the, rather correct, observation that there are differences between men and women, and then travels out a tangent at the speed of light, basically justifying that there shouldn't be equality and equal rights and opportunity.


He's a man. :dunno:


And she's got penis envy. ;)


Sorry, but I've just got to play devil's advocate and argue the opposite just for the hell of it. :twisted:
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Re: Why modern feminism is illogical, unnecessary, and evil

Postby Rev. Dolly Rotten » Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:30 pm

ridiculous pile of crap wrote:An insurmountable body of evidence by now conclusively demonstrates that the vanilla assumption is false; men and women are inherently, fundamentally, and irreconcilably different.


Sure, there's differences. I have to turn maps in the direction I'm actually going and I doubt I'll ever master parallel parking, yet my boyfriend reads maps with ease and can park the car in a space I'd doubt my arse would fit in. I don't think any of the differences actually outweigh what we have in common. Whether one party can read maps and another can't has no bearing on the fact that we are inherently equal and the same. We all eat, shit, sleep, shag and want to be happy. That's the human thing. Doesn't matter what gender we are: it's about time we stopped playing to trivial differences and just got on with it. I don't think there's anything "irreconcilable" about it at all. I think it's just easier for a certain type of woman to blame gender differences for their own failings. Blah.

I'm in a bit of a bad mood today, can you tell? :)
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Re: Why modern feminism is illogical, unnecessary, and evil

Postby maiforpeace » Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:46 pm

Heiden wrote:
And she's got penis envy. ;)

Sorry, but I've just got to play devil's advocate and argue the opposite just for the hell of it. :twisted:


That's just not a very relevant statement to make these days. Ever heard of a dildo? :giggle:

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ridiculous pile of crap wrote:An insurmountable body of evidence by now conclusively demonstrates that the vanilla assumption is false; men and women are inherently, fundamentally, and irreconcilably different.




:rofl:
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Re: Why modern feminism is illogical, unnecessary, and evil

Postby Globe » Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:52 pm

Rev. Dolly Rotten wrote:
ridiculous pile of crap wrote:An insurmountable body of evidence by now conclusively demonstrates that the vanilla assumption is false; men and women are inherently, fundamentally, and irreconcilably different.


Sure, there's differences. I have to turn maps in the direction I'm actually going and I doubt I'll ever master parallel parking, yet my boyfriend reads maps with ease and can park the car in a space I'd doubt my arse would fit in. I don't think any of the differences actually outweigh what we have in common. Whether one party can read maps and another can't has no bearing on the fact that we are inherently equal and the same. We all eat, shit, sleep, shag and want to be happy. That's the human thing. Doesn't matter what gender we are: it's about time we stopped playing to trivial differences and just got on with it. I don't think there's anything "irreconcilable" about it at all. I think it's just easier for a certain type of woman to blame gender differences for their own failings. Blah.

I'm in a bit of a bad mood today, can you tell? :)

And I can parallel park blindfolded. Even my housebig monster of a Citroen. Build you a house. But can't do math over 5th grade level if my life depended on it. :giggle:

The differences between the sexes are not much bigger than the difference within each sex. Yet it's used as an excuse for all kinds of ridiculous things. :nono:
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Re: Why modern feminism is illogical, unnecessary, and evil

Postby Heiden » Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:41 am

maiforpeace wrote:
Heiden wrote:
And she's got penis envy. ;)

Sorry, but I've just got to play devil's advocate and argue the opposite just for the hell of it. :twisted:


That's just not a very relevant statement to make these days. Ever heard of a dildo? :giggle:

Rev. Dolly Rotten wrote:
ridiculous pile of crap wrote:An insurmountable body of evidence by now conclusively demonstrates that the vanilla assumption is false; men and women are inherently, fundamentally, and irreconcilably different.




:rofl:


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Re: Why modern feminism is illogical, unnecessary, and evil

Postby BaronVonChhaya » Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:10 pm

maiforpeace wrote:
Globe wrote:http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/200908/why-modern-feminism-is-illogical-unnecessary-and-evil

I don't know what to say. :what:

Why modern feminism is illogical, unnecessary, and evil

Although it is not Susan Pinker’s intention in writing it, reading her excellent book The Sexual Paradox: Troubled Boys, Gifted Girls and the Real Difference Between the Sexes cannot help but further reinforce my view that modern feminism in the 21st century is simultaneously illogical, unnecessary, and evil.

First, modern feminism is illogical because, as Pinker points out, it is based on the vanilla assumption that, but for lifelong gender socialization and pernicious patriarchy, men and women are on the whole identical. An insurmountable body of evidence by now conclusively demonstrates that the vanilla assumption is false; men and women are inherently, fundamentally, and irreconcilably different. Any political movement based on such a spectacularly incorrect assumption about human nature – that men and women are and should be identical – is doomed to failure.


As far as I can see it, he starts off with the, rather correct, observation that there are differences between men and women, and then travels out a tangent at the speed of light, basically justifying that there shouldn't be equality and equal rights and opportunity.


He's a man. :dunno:


Oi!! not all men are evil, iconsiderate facists...some fo them are gay.
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Re: Why modern feminism is illogical, unnecessary, and evil

Postby Globe » Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:07 pm

You are right Baron. Some of them are gay.


BTW.... yesterday there was a ruling in the Supreme Court. A woman was given 1 mill dkr (about £100.000) because the company she worked for had payed her more than 5.000 dkr/month (£500) less than her male collegues, who held exactly the sasme type of jobs.
:wohoo: For the Supreme court. The case had been lost in both city-court and regional court.
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Re: Why modern feminism is illogical, unnecessary, and evil

Postby Heiden » Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:38 am

Globe wrote:You are right Baron. Some of them are gay.


BTW.... yesterday there was a ruling in the Supreme Court. A woman was given 1 mill dkr (about £100.000) because the company she worked for had payed her more than 5.000 dkr/month (£500) less than her male collegues, who held exactly the sasme type of jobs.
:wohoo: For the Supreme court. The case had been lost in both city-court and regional court.


Why does this woman need to be paid so much money? Doesn't her husband earn enough to support her? :twisted:
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Re: Why modern feminism is illogical, unnecessary, and evil

Postby BaronVonChhaya » Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:48 pm

Ah I love this Social Sexism...it's what makes friends great.
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Re: Why modern feminism is illogical, unnecessary, and evil

Postby clouded_perception » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:43 am

maiforpeace wrote:
Heiden wrote:
And she's got penis envy. ;)

Sorry, but I've just got to play devil's advocate and argue the opposite just for the hell of it. :twisted:


That's just not a very relevant statement to make these days. Ever heard of a dildo? :giggle:


Or a transsexual?

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ridiculous pile of crap wrote:An insurmountable body of evidence by now conclusively demonstrates that the vanilla assumption is false; men and women are inherently, fundamentally, and irreconcilably different.



Given that, although there are definitely differences, factors such as social conditioning and normal problems with such tests make it impossible to determine exactly what, and how far-reaching, these differences are, I don't see what they have to do with anything.
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Re: Why modern feminism is illogical, unnecessary, and evil

Postby Globe » Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:48 am

clouded_perception wrote:
Rev. Dolly Rotten wrote:
ridiculous pile of crap wrote:An insurmountable body of evidence by now conclusively demonstrates that the vanilla assumption is false; men and women are inherently, fundamentally, and irreconcilably different.



Given that, although there are definitely differences, factors such as social conditioning and normal problems with such tests make it impossible to determine exactly what, and how far-reaching, these differences are, I don't see what they have to do with anything.

They have to do with the fact that as long as men can think that women ar fundamentally different it's sort of OK not to treat them as full human beings.
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Re: Why modern feminism is illogical, unnecessary, and evil

Postby clouded_perception » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:49 am

Globe wrote:
clouded_perception wrote:
Rev. Dolly Rotten wrote:
ridiculous pile of crap wrote:An insurmountable body of evidence by now conclusively demonstrates that the vanilla assumption is false; men and women are inherently, fundamentally, and irreconcilably different.



Given that, although there are definitely differences, factors such as social conditioning and normal problems with such tests make it impossible to determine exactly what, and how far-reaching, these differences are, I don't see what they have to do with anything.

They have to do with the fact that as long as men can think that women ar fundamentally different it's sort of OK not to treat them as full human beings.


You know who I reckon hates guys like this twice as much as we do? Male feminists. They give men a bad name.
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